{"id":668,"date":"2019-10-27T13:52:49","date_gmt":"2019-10-27T13:52:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/2019\/10\/27\/nyad-at-the-ebell-part-2-it-was-always-cuba-the-bartlett-pair-and-other-myths\/"},"modified":"2026-06-18T15:22:29","modified_gmt":"2026-06-18T15:22:29","slug":"nyad-at-the-ebell-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/nyad-at-the-ebell-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Nyad at the Ebell, part 2: It was Always Cuba, The Bartlett Pair, and Other Myths"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pngall.com\/bull-png\/download\/11905\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-7498\" src=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/bull-1.png\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 73px) 85vw, 73px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/bull-1-1.png 300w, https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/bull-1-2.png 500w\" alt=\"\" width=\"73\" height=\"55\" data-attachment-id=\"7498\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/bull-1.png?fit=500%2C374&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,374\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"bull\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/bull-1.png?fit=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/bull-1.png?fit=500%2C374&amp;ssl=1\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><em>Warning:<\/em> This post contains profanity\u2014mostly \u201cbullshit,\u201d because Diana Nyad utters mainly that.<\/p>\n<h3><em>\u00a1Cuba Siempre!\u00a0<\/em><\/h3>\n<p>After claiming to have been \u201cthe best ocean swimmer in the world\u201d (see <a href=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/nyad-at-the-ebell-part-1-the-best-on-planet-earth\/\">previous post<\/a>), Nyad takes a step back to admire her grandeur and finds it wanting:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I held all the major records on planet Earth, uh, out in the open sea. But for me, all those were in one category\u2014the Bay of Naples, the swims along the Argentine coast\u2014all respectable, tough swims. But it was always about Cuba for me.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7469\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"width: 300px;\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7469\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tiddlywinks.org\/history\/origins-and-early-history-of-tiddlywinks\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7469\" src=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/tiddlywinks.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 85vw, 300px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/tiddlywinks.jpg&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/tiddlywinks-2.jpg 570w\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"172\" data-attachment-id=\"7469\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/tiddlywinks.jpg?fit=570%2C326&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"570,326\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;Tucker Tiddlywinks Collection&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;ILCA-77M2&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1416761319&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;2014 Rick Tucker&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;70&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;200&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.008&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;MCL-04v2c2&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Old Tiddlywinks box\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Via the website of the North American Tiddlywinks Association.&lt;\/p&gt; \" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/tiddlywinks.jpg?fit=300%2C172&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/tiddlywinks.jpg?fit=570%2C326&amp;ssl=1\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7469\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image via the website of the <a href=\"https:\/\/tiddlywinks.org\/history\/origins-and-early-history-of-tiddlywinks\/\">North American Tiddlywinks Association<\/a>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>That\u2019s pile of bullshit #1\u2014it was <em>never<\/em> about Cuba. It was always about fame and adoration. How she achieved those things mattered not at all. If she could have gained world-wide attention playing tiddlywinks, she would have done so gladly\u2014fewer jellyfish that way.<\/p>\n<p>Nyad implies in her 2015 memoir,\u00a0 <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.betterworldbooks.com\/product\/detail\/Find-a-Way-9780385353618\">Find a Way<\/a>,<\/em>\u00a0 that she went all-in on Cuba shortly after her 1975 Manhattan triumph. Newspaper accounts, however, tell a different story. By the summer of 1976, Nyad had no thoughts of swimming from Cuba to Florida:<\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">She has great plans: the [English] Channel this year; then there are the Great Lakes, and she\u2019d like to swim through the Bermuda Triangle to see what happens. (<a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle.jpg\"><em>San Antonio Star<\/em><\/a>, 12 Sep 1976)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7481 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle-1.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle-2.jpg 300w, https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle-3.jpg 768w, https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle-4.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle-5.jpg 1239w\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"336\" data-attachment-id=\"7481\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle.jpg?fit=1239%2C495&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1239,495\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle.jpg?fit=300%2C120&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/1976.09.12.san_antonio_express-devils-triangle.jpg?fit=840%2C336&amp;ssl=1\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>February of 1977\u2014and still no thoughts of Cuba. She had, in fact, begun working an entirely new racket:<\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Because she has become the best at it, Diana has begun to lose interest in swimming. She is now devoting her time and energy to becoming champion in another sport\u2014\u00a0 squash. (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1977.02.glamour.jpg\">Glamour<\/a>, <\/em>Feb 1977. <em>Note that Diana\u2019s good friend and enabler Candace Hogan wrote this piece, hence the \u201cbest at it\u201d buy-in.<\/em>)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Then a Cuba swim occurs to her\u2014or, more likely, to her publicist\u2014but it\u2019s not a heart thing:<\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The 27-year-old talks confidently about attempting a swim from Cuba to Miami in the summer of next year\u2026. She says she wants to do it for the thrill of having done it, of course, and the pride the feat will give her. But there are other reasons, too. Her manager has told her the event is a publicist\u2019s dream\u2026. (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1977.03.27-family-weekly-nyad.jpg\">Family Weekly<\/a>, <\/em>27 Mar 1977)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\u201cThe Cuba swim has tremendous commercial potential,\u201d she said. \u201cIt will be big enough to keep me on the talk show circuit for a year.\u201d (<a href=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1978.07.04.the-star-lo.jpg\"><em>The Star<\/em><\/a>, 4 July 1978)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>If that doesn\u2019t pan out, though, how about Greece?<\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\u201cI don\u2019t care if it\u2019s the Aegean Sea or another Cuba to Florida run or what it is. It\u2019s got to be 100 miles of open ocean water, from land to land.\u201d (<a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1980.02.10.Star_Tribune.jpg\"><em>Minneapolis Tribune<\/em><\/a>, 10 Feb 1980)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>After ostensibly succeeding in her 2013 Cuba-Florida attempt, Nyad rearranges another timeline. \u201cScrew the truth,\u201d she seems to be saying, \u201cit just impedes narrative flow.\u201d In <em>Find a Way, <\/em>you\u2019ll find nothing about those swims in the Great Lakes, the Bermuda Triangle, and the Aegean. Finally, it\u2019s all about Cuba.<\/p>\n<p>Just after describing how she had become \u201cthe first woman to swim around Manhattan\u201d <em>(Find a Way<\/em>, <em>p.<\/em> 66), Nyad writes:<\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">It was time to get focused. Candace and I gathered the charts of the Earth\u2019s oceans on the floor of our Upper West Side apartment\u2026.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">I remember it as if it were yesterday. My eyes swept the charts and, zowie, there it was. Cuba.\u201d (p. 69)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Like much of what Nyad describes in <em>Find a Way<\/em>, that did not happen. (See, for instance, giant flying squid \u201cgrabbing birds out of the air,\u201d etc., in \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/nyads-lies-part-1-from-bimini-to-the-big-apple-the-lies-in-find-a-way\/#squid\">From Bimini to the Big Apple: The Lies in <em>Find a Way<\/em><\/a>.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p>If this was always about anything, it was about the Olympics, Diana\u2019s ur-dream. But Nyad never had the speed to qualify.\u00a0 She couldn\u2019t let herself believe that, though, so she made up a story about <a href=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/dianas-kaleidoscopic-convalescence-summary\/\">a debilitating illness<\/a>. Then she came up with a consolation prize:<\/p>\n<blockquote id=\"thumbs\"><p>\u201cThis is my Olympics,\u201d she says matter-of-factly\u2026. \u201cThe Cuban swim is the greatest endurance feat in human history. But if anyone can do it, I can.\u201d (<a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1978.08.10.nyad-lies-prepping-for-cuba.jpg\">Philadelphia Enquirer<\/a>, 10 Aug 1978)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3>John Bartlett\u2019s Thumbs<\/h3>\n<blockquote><p>That first day was glorious\u2026. John Bartlett, our genius navigator, was out of the navigation cabin all day with his thumbs up.<\/p>\n<p>We didn\u2019t see that one minute\u2014not a minute!\u2014not a minute of the other four previous attempts. He was ecstatic; he\u2019s usually despondent.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Point #1: Diana Nyad was in no position to see this. She was busy swimming (or not). She often talks about sensory deprivation, so she was also busy being sensorially deprived. Thus, she would not have seen John Bartlett\u2019s thumbs, even if such a vision was to be had.<\/p>\n<p>Point #2: The two people in the best position to see John Bartlett\u2019s thumbs, the swim\u2019s observers, never mention them. Previous to the Ebell speech, the only mention of that particular Bartlett pair comes on the second day:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As the sun climbed higher on Day 2, she passed the 24-hour mark\u2026. By noon, the Gulf Stream current had increased to 3.8 knots and turned in a more northeasterly direction, with a counterclockwise-churning eddy to the west \u2014 \u201cJust what we\u2019d hoped for,\u201d said Bartlett, beaming and flashing a thumbs-up to the crew. (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.miamiherald.com\/sports\/other-sports\/article1955183.html\">Miami Herald<\/a>, 17 Sep 2013)<\/p>\n<p>And I see Bartlett\u2019s head peering out his window, right above the Handler\u2019s station. He gives me a big thumbs-up, that grin still beaming ear to ear. (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.betterworldbooks.com\/product\/detail\/Find-a-Way-9780385353618\">Find a Way<\/a>, p. 261)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Point #3: Why does this matter? Because Diana wants to rewrite history again. She wants us to think that Bartlett knew about the magic current from day one and that he couldn\u2019t help but comment digitally. The magic current, however, doesn\u2019t turn up until days after the swim\u2014by which time Diana and her associates have realized that their stream of bullshit hasn\u2019t carried everyone along. (For more on this, see \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/countering-the-currents\/\">Countering the Currents<\/a>.\u201d)<\/p>\n<h3>Nyad\u2019s Secret Stash<\/h3>\n<blockquote><p>You know, it\u2019s been six years now since the stumble up on that beach. And I do remember it because it was so hard to do. But the real truth is I don\u2019t want to spend the rest of my life sitting around watching footage of the Cuba swim.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What footage? Most of the film from Diana\u2019s crossing <a href=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/diana-nyad-and-the-case-of-the-vanishing-video\/\">went missing shortly after her amble up Smathers Beach<\/a>. Maybe Diana stashed all the video in the same bank vault she claims to have hidden her GPS trackers <em>(Find a<\/em> <em>Way<\/em>, p. 278).<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, we mortals have to make do with scraps, often from previous swims:<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"padding: 5px;\">\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" style=\"border: 0;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/OA5P6eeoGZM?version=3&amp;rel=1&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;fs=1&amp;hl=en-US&amp;autohide=2&amp;wmode=transparent\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">During her 2012 Cuba-Florida attempt, Nyad intentionally grabs the boat and pushes off, grounds for immediate disqualification under the rules of any legitimate marathon swim. Notice that her crew is cheering, an indication that Nyad chose her crew specifically because they didn\u2019t know the sport. Anyone familiar with marathon swimming would have shouted at her to get away from the boat as she approached. They would have known that the swim ended the moment Diana grabbed the gunwale. See \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/disqualified\/\">Disqualified<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h3 id=\"finish\">Lacerations &amp; Tears (rhymes with \u201cears\u201d)<\/h3>\n<blockquote><p>And two hours from shore, I asked Bonnie and Bartlett to bring our whole flotilla, 44 people, in a semi-circle. I had tremendous lacerations all on the inside of the mouth from the mask and the sudden sea exposure and so it wasn\u2019t easy talking for me.<\/p>\n<p>But I said to them, \u201cI guess I\u2019m going to stumble up on that beach pretty soon. And somebody\u2019s gonna take my picture. But don\u2019t you ever forget my team, because I will never forget you. We did this together. We made history together.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Diana got weepy during that last bit, or at least she sounded that way. Her voice deepened, becoming almost a bray. Many good people had dedicated months, years, even decades to help the greatest marathon swimmer on earth succeed. Diana wanted us to know that such devotion moved her to tears.<\/p>\n<p>Thankfully, her speech remains extant. Here\u2019s Diana after 50 hours of ostensible swimming:<\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-video\" data-allowfullscreen=\"true\" data-href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/katie.leigh\/videos\/10151756631724842\/\"><\/div>\n<p>Now watch Nyad come ashore two hours later. Note how she removes her goggles and cap before leaving the water. She wants to look good for the media, ready for her next oration. She glances right, presumably at a camera. She even appears to be motioning people away\u2014you know, to keep from being touched and therefore disqualified.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" style=\"border: 0;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/HteGuvyX94s?version=3&amp;rel=1&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;fs=1&amp;hl=en-US&amp;autohide=2&amp;wmode=transparent\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>Now take a look at these clips from the finishes of two other swims. Penny Palfrey and Sarah Thomas had just swum 40 and 54 hours, respectively. Could they have given a Nyad-like speech two hours earlier? I doubt it. As they left the water, were Palfrey or Thomas thinking about how they looked or what they\u2019d say? No\u2014both of them appear to have precisely the same thing in mind: get onto dry land, sit down, don\u2019t move another inch.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" style=\"border: 0;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ClAYnPgqisk?version=3&amp;rel=1&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;fs=1&amp;hl=en-US&amp;autohide=2&amp;wmode=transparent\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" style=\"border: 0;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/aUl0PLZWvtE?version=3&amp;rel=1&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;fs=1&amp;hl=en-US&amp;autohide=2&amp;wmode=transparent\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>Thomas and Palfrey both look and act like people who just swam an inhumanly long way. Nyad, not so much.<\/p>\n<p id=\"location\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Trigger_(horse)\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-7419\" src=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Lynne_Roberts-Roy_Rogers_in_Billy_the_Kid_Returns.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 210px) 85vw, 210px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Lynne_Roberts-Roy_Rogers_in_Billy_the_Kid_Returns-1.jpg 300w, https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Lynne_Roberts-Roy_Rogers_in_Billy_the_Kid_Returns-2.jpg 471w\" alt=\"\" width=\"210\" height=\"165\" data-attachment-id=\"7419\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Lynne_Roberts-Roy_Rogers_in_Billy_the_Kid_Returns.jpg?fit=471%2C371&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"471,371\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Lynne_Roberts-Roy_Rogers_trigger\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Lynne_Roberts-Roy_Rogers_in_Billy_the_Kid_Returns.jpg?fit=300%2C236&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/Lynne_Roberts-Roy_Rogers_in_Billy_the_Kid_Returns.jpg?fit=471%2C371&amp;ssl=1\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a>WARNING<\/p>\n<p>Diana restated her abuse allegations at the Ebell, so an examination of them follows. Those allegations are as fictional as her Manhattan claims or her best-of-the-seventies claims or her jellyfish claims. If you\u2019d rather not read about such things, though, I want to thank you for having ridden this far.<\/p>\n<h3>Location, Location, Location<\/h3>\n<p>Nyad\u2019s false allegations of sexual abuse are abhorrent, and I\u2019d rather not talk about them. I have to confess, though, that I was curious. If she made the allegations at the Ebell, which version would she use? Would she use the new one from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2017\/11\/09\/opinion\/diana-nyad-sexual-assault.html\">the corrected op-ed<\/a>, or would she return to the story she tells in the <a href=\"https:\/\/patriciajgrace.wordpress.com\/2017\/11\/11\/diana-nyads-story\/?fbclid=IwAR3b91LDFS_hbRasscwwTOodue9WJKPb4Uln2ECp7dbht_Z7AcQz3sSggEU\">original op-ed<\/a> and <em>Find a Way<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p>In both versions, Nyad is 14 years old, and the alleged attack takes place at her coach\u2019s home. The fundamental difference between the two versions is the location of the meet during which the attack takes place. In <em>Find a Way<\/em> and the original op-ed, it occurs when her school hosts the state championships. (In a previous post, I showed how that would have been impossible. Gainseville, 300 miles from Fort Lauderdale, hosted the state championships that year.)\u00a0 In the new version of the op-ed, Nyad alleges that the attack occurred \u201con the day of a swim meet.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At the Ebell, Nyad split the difference. \u201cAge 14,\u201d she said, \u201cthere was a big meet in our home town.\u201d So it was no run-of-the-mill swim meet, but neither was it the state championships.<\/p>\n<p>Two events fit the bill:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1964.04.26.nyad_regionals_2nd.jpg\">The Broward County Championships<\/a> at Stranahan High School on April 25, 1964.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1964.08.15.miami_news.jpg\">The Florida Gold Coast AAU Senior Championships<\/a> at Fort Lauderdale\u2019s old Casino Pool on August 14, 1964.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Nyad continued:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I hadn\u2019t lost in the 100 meter backstroke in the state of Florida for two years.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In all of the meets for which I\u2019ve been able to find results, Nyad hadn\u2019t <em>won<\/em> a 100 backstroke up until she came in first at the state championships in Gainesville. She got 2nd at Stranahan in April, then won\u2013for the first time\u2014at the Gainesville meet. She won again at the Casino Pool.<a href=\"#notes\"><sup id=\"note1\">[1]<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In other words, her history of wins and losses unfolded in the opposite way she says it did:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I lost that night\u2026. I went to the bottom of the diving well, seventeen feet underwater, and I screamed\u2026.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Neither Stranahan nor the Casino pool had a diving well.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, Diana Nyad\u2019s abuse story is utter bullshit.<\/p>\n<p>If you still have any doubt that she uses her abuse allegations for self-aggrandizement, please consider these two statements:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li>\u201cI\u2019m working with Reese Witherspoon on the Time\u2019s Up campaign.\u201d<\/li>\n<li>\u201cI\u2019m trying to be involved with the National Archive of Sexual Abuse in Washington\u2014terrific people like Reese Witherspoon are helping to fund it\u2026.\u201d<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Yes, Diana Nyad must really like Reese Witherspoon, whom you\u2019ll have no trouble finding on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.timesupnow.com\/universal_joins_reese_witherspoon_j_j_abrams_jordan_peele_in_committing_to_hiring_female_directors_variety\">Time\u2019s Up website<\/a>. You\u2019ll find no mention, however, of Diana Nyad.\u00a0 And the National Archive of Sexual Abuse (NASA) exists only in Nyad\u2019s imagination\u2014where she is, of course, Survivor #1.<a href=\"#notes2\"><sup id=\"note2\">[2]<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Survivor #1\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KBacOi9PGEs?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p id=\"notes\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Clip from the 20 Nov 2017 episode of the Slate sports podcast, \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/y8njvy4h\">Hang Up and Listen<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h4>NOTES<\/h4>\n<div style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">\n<p>1. Below are all the \u201cbig meet\u201d backstroke results that I\u2019ve pieced together through 1964:<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; width: 70px; font-size: 10pt;\"><strong>Date<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 10pt; width: 325px;\"><strong>Meet<\/strong><\/td>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 10pt;\"><strong>Nyad\u2019s place<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; width: 70px; font-size: 10pt;\">23 Feb 63<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt; width: 325px;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1963.02.24.ft-lauderdale-news.jpg\">FLSA Invitational<\/a> (Fort Lauderdale)<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">3rd (110 yd.)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 10pt;\">13 Apr 63<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1963.04.14.ft-lauderdale-news.jpg\">Florida Gold Coast Senior Short Course Championships<\/a> (Pompano Beach)<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">4th (200 yd.)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 10pt;\">4 May 63<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1963.05.05.ft_lauderdale_news-state-meet.jpg\">State Class A Swimming Championships <\/a>(Gainesville)<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">Did not compete in a backstroke event<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 10pt;\">27 Jul 63<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1963.07.30.Fort_Lauderdale_News.jpg\">Florida Gold Coast AAU Senior Championships<\/a> (Fort Lauderdale)<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">6th (110 yd. back)<br \/>\n2nd (220 yd. back)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; width: 70px; font-size: 10pt;\">25 Apr 64<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt; width: 325px;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/annex\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/nyad_2nd_at_districts_1964___winning_time_1_06_8.jpg\">Broward County Championships<\/a><br \/>\n(Stranahan, Ft. Lauderdale)<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">2nd (100 yd.)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 10pt;\">2 May 64<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1964.05.03._state_meet_gainesville.jpg\">State Class A Swimming Championships <\/a>(Gainesville)<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">1st (100 yd.)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center; font-size: 10pt;\">14 Aug 64<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/1963.02.24.ft-lauderdale-news.jpg\">Florida Gold Coast AAU Senior Championships<\/a><br \/>\n(Casino Pool, Ft. Lauderdale)<\/td>\n<td style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">1st (110 yd.)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>For a more detailed list, please see <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/spreadsheets\/d\/1jtepsAo_vpNxaSIeQJiZaP4KrA0RW7rZ7vYFifI_T2Q\/edit?usp=sharing\">this spreadsheet<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I want to give Diana the last word on her early swims. The following comes from an interview she gave sometime during the year prior to her Cuba-Florida success. Note that Nyad does not correct the interviewer when she erroneously attributes three state championships to Diana.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>THE BELIEVER:<\/strong> You grew up in Florida, and were a swimmer from an early age. In fact, you won three Florida state championships in high school. I can relate to this\u2014training and competing from before puberty, in my case\u2014though I was never quite that accomplished. How intensively did you train at that age, as a teenager and even earlier?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>DIANA NYAD:<\/strong> I am not terribly interested in this particular conversation at all, and I really don\u2019t know what it has to do with anything. The life that I am living now has absolutely nothing to do with swimming. I am sixty-three years old, living a life of passion and rediscovered commitment. I could give a shit if I swam, or was a sculptor, or anything else. That life meant nothing to me. My coach sexually molested me as a teenager. Swimming did not define who I was as much as my personality and goals did. I am not some little \u201cage- group swimmer\u201d who has discovered the sport. I have no memories or attachment to it in that sense.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\u2014from \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/nyadfactcheck.com\/articles\/2013.01.01.an-interview-with-diana-nyad-lo.pdf\">An Interview with Diana Nyad<\/a>,\u201d <em>The Believer<\/em>, 1 Jan 2013<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"notes2\" style=\"color: red; text-decoration: none;\" href=\"#note1\">RETURN<\/a><\/p>\n<p>2. Speaking of imagination:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>And now, at age 70, I\u2019m looking across at new horizons. And I\u2019m asking myself once again: What is it I plan to do with this one wild and precious life.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That\u2019s our cue. Together now: \u201cWhat the fuck is she up to now?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Well, she has a plan, and it\u2019s a doozie. It involves getting \u201cthousands, maybe 10,000 swimmers\u2014not in a race, it\u2019s not about swimming, it\u2019s about the wonderful ocean\u2014to swim from Miami to Manhattan.\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/DianaNyad\/posts\/10157695905164292?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARAWqmKXhe1XJ-OBE0H_n5uSoZRmPmWKqFnxvM6cQZKKBH8WOBK6Uun0WnTN5JiCT4dn5igeQpg1ZP-0wopdaFYoZc0J-IxKaXCs-jMpAYGQV1FhjhofLXaApSZjfrHQ1Qwba0BOo4HqVf5XGGfnyUx3co9RPEnTVdBa533i3wIel2SKZY9oINubePaF2OCNLvU3i-TRTR57Bx_qVoObIBnKuKLIuG6J3wVI2lwB9NFE_96ivfedL2fNDzEtEHfE8KOLNSnQnoSy-cSZ6n-BZmB1hMhv6tw2BzdEt5ivR1g79n8JDYQiYIVuY1kaMQeKj4AS_FPscHBB8jd3rA&amp;__tn__=-R\">Richard Branson<\/a>\u2019s in there, though he didn\u2019t know it at the time. Branson\u2019s ship\u2014Cruise ship? Yacht? I\u2019m gonna have to give him a call and see what he\u2019s got\u2014will play a pivotal role. It\u2019ll be\u2026<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2026the central ship of this trip up so that, from the coast, you could come out if you were a swimmer, a media person, a lecturer. We\u2019ve invited <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sylvia_Earle\">Sylvia Earle<\/a>, Al Gore, all kinds of people. They would be able to come out quickly from any point of Florida, the Carolinas, D.C., Maryland\u2014you know, all the way up\u2026.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #1a1a1a;\">Get ready\u2014it\u2019s goin\u2019 [all the way] up tonight!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a style=\"color: red; text-decoration: none;\" href=\"#note2\">RETURN<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" style=\"border: 0;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/bBBDCwZECLQ?version=3&amp;rel=1&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;fs=1&amp;hl=en-US&amp;autohide=2&amp;wmode=transparent\" width=\"840\" height=\"473\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><span hidden class=\"__iawmlf-post-loop-links\" 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